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Brushless Power
New Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 19 November 2008 : 20:39:24
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Hi coupe-se (Nick)
Thanks for the comments about my electric buggy. Im Phil and my dad is Steve, ye it was another good night. Could do with a few 1/10 Nitro or Electric buggys to run in a heat, any more out there? |
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TomTom
Average Member
Kyrgyzstan
596 Posts |
Posted - 19 November 2008 : 20:43:31
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Was a good night last night, although I was a bit, well, VERY disorganised lol!! Sir Harvo, what diff oils are you running in your car, and also when is the car understeering? Is it when you turn in or when you come out of the corner?
Cheers
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J-James
Junior Member
United Kingdom
134 Posts |
Posted - 19 November 2008 : 20:45:59
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Was a good night :) although my car broke i used Sir Harvos  and won my last two races and tonight i have just cleaned my car and changed the oils in my shocks  |
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TomTom
Average Member
Kyrgyzstan
596 Posts |
Posted - 19 November 2008 : 20:47:45
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We are very active on here tonight!
I think im going to strip mine down at the weekend, the sand e.t.c gets everywhere
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Sir Harvo
Junior Member
145 Posts |
Posted - 19 November 2008 : 20:53:02
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I'm running 3 Back, 5 Front and 7 Middle. Only changed to this a couple of weeks ago and it made a big improvement over standard.
On the slower tight corners it doesn't seem to turn tight enough and the front slides wide on the latter part of the corner. Can throttle off, turn in throttle on and power slide the back round but that isn't the most controlled way of doing it....
I have been running the out of the box tyres but will be trying some angle spikes next week. |
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J-James
Junior Member
United Kingdom
134 Posts |
Posted - 19 November 2008 : 20:54:39
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yeh it did with mine, i stripped it down to a certain extent so i could get most of the rubbish out, now all we (sir harvo and i) need to do is sort out my clutch :(
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TomTom
Average Member
Kyrgyzstan
596 Posts |
Posted - 19 November 2008 : 21:13:45
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Same diff setup as me then. I find the car will always understeer when you power out of the corner because the weight is shifted towards the back unloading the front wheels. On my Hyper I run angled spikes on the front, and Pro - Line bow ties on the rear, giving the front end plenty of grip, but stops the rear end digging in so the car dosent grip roll (in theory)!
When I corner my car, I dab the brake to slow the car, then coast into the corner applying power when the car hits the apex of the corner. For best turn in, I find it is best for the car to be slowing down, or neutral, i.e. not accelerating, or decellerating.
To help with power understeer, and if you dont want to get your hands very dirty, you can have a play with the anti squat on your car. Ive not got my buggy handy at the moment, but Ill see you next Tuesday if you want to know a bit more, its easier to explain with a car!
Hope thats some help
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Sir Harvo
Junior Member
145 Posts |
Posted - 19 November 2008 : 21:21:30
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TomTom
Average Member
Kyrgyzstan
596 Posts |
Posted - 19 November 2008 : 21:41:06
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Originally posted by Sir Harvo
Is it normal for people to run different tyres front to rear? I would of thought that was when you needed to be changing diff oils?
I dont think its a regular occurence. I have just done it in an attempt to stop grip roll, which has worked quite well I think.
As for the diffs... Good point never thought of that . I should imagine that any difference in rolling radius would make the center diff work a bit harder, but I dont think it would be enough to damage the diff, however if you see my diff in several peices next week, feel free to quote this post
Cheers
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coupe-se
New Member
85 Posts |
Posted - 20 November 2008 : 11:47:20
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Brushless power aka Phil ....... I could bring my baby Annsman Royal Flash truggy but don't think it would be much of a competition against your beast!! 
Carl ........ you should compare your Buggy setup to mine as I seem to have way to much oversteer dialed in. I've reduced the steering throw slighty to improve it, but think I need to add a little camber to rear wheels and reduce the spring pre-load to make the suspension more compliant and make the rear tyres bite bite more. My rear wheels at the moment are just about vertical and the spiral tyres have a lot more spikes on the inner edge.
Have you tried adjusting the ring wing to see if that makes any difference?
Joe ...... be careful, you may get better than Carl and start beating him!! |
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coupe-se
New Member
85 Posts |
Posted - 20 November 2008 : 14:24:21
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Would we be permitted to run a 1/5th scale petrol Baja with the Truggies on a Tuesday evening?
Prices are dropping as the popularity increases and there are quite a few appearing 2nd hand now. |
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grasshopper
Senior Member
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Posted - 20 November 2008 : 15:55:49
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As regards the 1/5th - NO!
Reason being that we're indoors and the fuel is far more volatile than glo-fuel and that's one thing that Laughton's management were a little concerned about when we first approached them, the exhaust is also more toxic.
Other reasons - a 1/5th won't make many of the turns, and if someone gets hit by one it would be a more serious injury.
Next year, outdoors at Gonerby - fine, indoors it's a definite no-go.
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J-James
Junior Member
United Kingdom
134 Posts |
Posted - 20 November 2008 : 16:18:21
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Well Nick i did win my heat aswell, and what were you planning wih this 1/5th? running us all over so you could win?  |
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coupe-se
New Member
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Posted - 20 November 2008 : 21:44:00
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Originally posted by grasshopper
As regards the 1/5th - NO!
Reason being that we're indoors and the fuel is far more volatile than glo-fuel and that's one thing that Laughton's management were a little concerned about when we first approached them, the exhaust is also more toxic.
Other reasons - a 1/5th won't make many of the turns, and if someone gets hit by one it would be a more serious injury.
Next year, outdoors at Gonerby - fine, indoors it's a definite no-go.
Thought so to be honest. I could see a race meet outside with a few 1/5th scale petrol cars being a potential hazard. All that petrol vapour around hot engines and exhausts!!!
Joe ....... was thinking the only way I'd get close to winning anything was crushing the opposition with a 1/5th scale Buggy. |
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smogthemog
Junior Member
Congo, Democratic Republic of
123 Posts |
Posted - 24 November 2008 : 20:00:57
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Carl - Have you got the Hyper 7 manual?
http://ofna.com/manuals.html
Manual: http://www.ofna.com/pdf/hypertqsport.pdf
Follow this link for Ofna's message board:
http://www.ofna.com/forum
Go there and you'll find a lot of set up info for these.
Give it a little toe-in, 1-2 degrees on the front. The rear may already be set up from the factory with 1 or 2 degrees. Just look at the angle of the tires/wheels/axles/arms to the rest of the chassis. If they look like they point in a little, just leave them as is. Do you have any positive camber at the rear Carl? Of so, and it sounds like most do, adjust to about 1-2 degrees of negative camber. This on all 4 wheels is not a bad thing!
Make sure all your linkages are parallel and at the correct angles/lengths to where they should be.
Obviously the steering needs to be exactly the same travel on either side. Do you have too much travel? Do you have too little travel?
Are they symmetrical?
It still worries me greatly that Hobao seem to think stalling the throttle/brake servo during brake, is OK to do 
Get some 5-8mm long bits of fuel tubing or even springs behind those brake stops before another servo goes. Preventative maintenance 
Try running different oil weights in the diffs Carl? Have a snout about to see what others, that are racing, are finding is best.
I've still not got the Sirio  Yet |
Edited by - smogthemog on 24 November 2008 20:11:12 |
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